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	<title>Matt Woodruff's Blog</title>
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		<title>Background on Dry Wicking Fabrics</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2010/08/18/background-on-dry-wicking-fabrics/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a link to an interesting article on Dry Wicking fabrics:  &#8220;Designers sweat the details to let athletic clothes breathe&#8221; from the Washington Post:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080904129.html
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		<title>&#8220;All Purpose&#8221; Paper versus Baby Wipes</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2010/01/02/all-purpose-paper-versus-baby-wipes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt Woodruff</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Some use all purpose paper (AKA toilet paper) in the outdoors.  Others advocate baby wipes.  I have tried some of the wipes marketed for outdoor use to clean my face and hands, but not to replace AP.  I know a few guys who swear by them for all of their &#8220;business.&#8221;  One complaint about the wipes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some use all purpose paper (AKA toilet paper) in the outdoors.  Others advocate baby wipes.  I have tried some of the wipes marketed for outdoor use to clean my face and hands, but not to replace AP.  I know a few guys who swear by them for all of their &#8220;business.&#8221;  One complaint about the wipes is that they tend to dry out during storage, so you need a new pack for every trip.  I was hunting doves today and sometimes when you have multiple birds down and you are helping the dog out, you get your hands covered in blood and feathers handling the birds.  I wished I had some baby wipes to clean my hands off so that I could keep the mess off my gun.</p>
<p>Weigh in.  What is your prefererence AP or wipes? </p>
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		<title>Where to save money and where not to skimp</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/12/04/where-to-save-money-and-where-not-to-skimp/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At a recent presentation on gear choices, a parent asked a very good question:  “If I am buying backpacking gear for my son, where should  I invest in better gear and where can I cut some corners to save money.  I have tried to address these issues in a lot of the posts here, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><font face="Times New Roman">At a recent presentation on gear choices, a parent asked a very good question:<span>  </span>“If I am buying backpacking gear for my son, where should<span>  </span>I invest in better gear and where can I cut some corners to save money.<span>  </span>I have tried to address these issues in a lot of the posts here, but I will attempt to briefly summarize my thoughts in one place.<span>  </span>For more details, start with the article on that particular type of equipment.  These comments are appropriate to weekend type camping and backpacking trips.  For extended backcountry trips or  &#8221;bet your life on your gear&#8221; adventures, the answers might change.</font></span></p>
<p><span></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Don’t Skimp items:</strong></font><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong> </strong></font></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Backpack</strong>.<span>  </span>I like the Kelty Coyote, which is a mid-priced option.<span>   </span>A durable, well fitting backpack is a must.</font></span></span><span> </span><span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Rain gear/shells.</strong><span>  </span>Lightweight waterproof breathable raingear, like the Marmot Precip makes a difference.<span>  </span>Get full zip pants that can go on over boots and be donned while standing.<span>  </span>Be frugal by buying them large so a growing boy can wear them longer.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></span></p>
<p></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Water container.</strong><span>  </span>I am a huge fan of the Camelbak products.<span>  </span>Nalgene bottles were indestructible before they took the BPA out.<span>  </span>We will have to see how the new ones hold up, but get a good water container.<span>  </span>I carry both the Camelbak 3 liter bladder and a Camelbak for use in camp.<span>  </span>If I need another container for more water,<span>  </span>I would add in a nalgene or a platypus.<span>  </span></font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Save some money on these items:</strong></font><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong> </strong></font><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>“Warmth gear.”</strong><span>  </span>For backpacking, I like the polar fleece jackets.<span>  </span>There is not a huge difference between a $10 jacket and a $110 one.<span>  </span>Save some money here.</font></span></span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Sleeping bag.</strong><span>  </span>You need the right bag, but you don’t need to pay a fortune for it.<span>  </span>A highly compactable, lightweight synthetic bag can be had for $75 or less.<span>  </span>I like the Thermolite fill, but there could be other materials that are just as good or better.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></span></p>
<p></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Mess Gear</strong>.<span>  </span>You don’t need a titanium spork.<span>  </span>A plastic one will do just fine.<span>  </span>The lightweight plastic bowls at Walmart are lighter than anything you will buy at REI, if not as durable.<span>  </span>Buy two and have a spare if you break one.<span>  </span>Get a polycarbonate bowl at Academy if you want to be sure it will not break.<span>  </span>Cheap cups are fine.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Boots</strong>.<span>  </span>Again, you need good boots, but don’t have to buy the best available, especially when they will outgrow them soon.<span>  </span>An exception is Philmont.<span>  </span>If<span>  </span>you are headed there, better boots are probably warranted.<span>  </span>Get them well enough in advance that they will be broken in, but not so soon that they will be outgrown before you get there.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Hiking sticks</strong>.<span>  </span>You can save weight and maybe add some durability by spending a lot of money, but my $15 or so a pair from Walmart have served me quite well in a variety of venues.<span>  </span>I would not buy an expensive pair for a young man.<span>  </span>For a Philmont trip, I might consider an upgrade to a midrange set if I could find some on sale.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span> </span><span></span><span><span><font face="Times New Roman">There may be a few more items that could go on either list.<span>  </span>If you have a concern that is not addressed here, <span> </span>or if you disagree with me, leave a comment.</font></span></span></p>
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		<title>How To Stay Warm and Dry in the Outdoors</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/11/29/how-to-stay-warm-and-dry-in-the-outdoors/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How To Stay Warm and Dry in the Outdoors  (Word Document - Opens in new Window)  This is an update of a guide I prepared several years ago that talks about clothing choices that will help you stay warm (or cool) and dry in the outdoors. 
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		<title>Selling the Jeep&#8217;s OEM Wheels and Tires</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/11/24/selling-the-jeeps-oem-wheels-and-tires/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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If anybody is interested in the Moab wheels and Goodyear Wrangler MT/R tires that came with the Jeep, leave a comment.
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<p>If anybody is interested in the Moab wheels and Goodyear Wrangler MT/R tires that came with the Jeep, leave a comment.</p>
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		<title>Backpacking Gear Packing List and Analysis Spreadsheet</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/11/24/backpacking-gear-analysis-spreadsheet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Backpacking Gear Packing List and Analysis Spreadsheet.  This is a link to an Excel Spreadsheet that I got from a fellow Assistant Scoutmaster and modified to suit my needs.  It is filled with actual data for a scout going to Philmont.  In the first set of columns, enter in the gear you have and what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://memorialvillages.net/__oneclick_uploads/2009/12/pro-forma-backpack-weight-alternative-chart.xls" title="Backpacking Gear Packing List and Analysis Spreadsheet">Backpacking Gear Packing List and Analysis Spreadsheet</a><a target="_blank" href="http://memorialvillages.net/__oneclick_uploads/2009/11/pro-forma-backpack-weight-alternative-chart.xls" title="Pro Forma Backpack Weight Analysis Chart">. </a> This is a link to an Excel Spreadsheet that I got from a fellow Assistant Scoutmaster and modified to suit my needs.  It is filled with actual data for a scout going to Philmont.  In the first set of columns, enter in the gear you have and what it weighs (use a postage scale).  In the columns to the right, enter any lower weight alternative gear you are considering for each item.  The sheet will give you a running tally of what your pack and clothing weighs, how much weight you would save through using the alternatives and how much it will cost you to buy the alternatives.  For example, substituting Platypus bottles for Nalgene bottles saves a lot of weight for a relatively modest cost, as does trading a Z-fold Thermarest for a traditional inflatable Thermarest. </p>
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		<title>More on the Jeep Power Steering Pump Noise</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/11/16/more-on-the-jeep-power-steering-pump-noise/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took the Jeep back and had them replace the power steering pump.   Problem solved.  The new pump is silent.  Don&#8217;t believe a service writer if he tells you they are all noisy.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the Jeep back and had them replace the power steering pump.   Problem solved.  The new pump is silent.  Don&#8217;t believe a service writer if he tells you they are all noisy.</p>
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		<title>How a sleeping bag works (and how to stay warm in one)</title>
		<link>http://memorialvillages.net/2009/11/16/how-a-sleeping-bag-works-and-how-to-stay-warm-in-one/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sleeping bags keep you warm by retaining your own body heat, while passing moisture through the bag to the atmosphere.  Most experts say that the body does not release as much heat during sleep, so the warmth your body gives off between the time you enter the bag and go to sleep has to help [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Times New Roman"><span>Sleeping bags keep you warm by retaining your own body heat, while passing moisture through the bag to the atmosphere.<span>  </span>Most experts say that the body does not release as much heat during sleep, so the warmth your body gives off between the time you enter the bag and go to sleep has to help keep you warm through the night.<span>  </span>One activity that causes your body to release heat is digesting food.<span>  </span>On a cold night, drinking a cup of hot broth or cocoa can help you warm up your bag and lead to a comfortable night.<span>  </span>While retaining heat is good, sweating is not and is to be avoided at all costs.<span>  </span>Once you become sweaty, you are likely to become cold and miserable.<span>  </span>It is important to recognize when you are building up too much heat and ventilate the bag before sweating starts.<span>  </span>Underwear, and especially cotton underwear, retains moisture and if you get in your sleeping bag wearing the same t-shirt and underwear you wore all day, you are asking for a miserable night.<span>   </span>Smart campers will put on their fresh underwear for the next day as they are getting into their sleeping bag at night.<span>  </span>They will also put their clothes for the next morning inside their sleeping bag so that they can put on warm clothes in the morning rather than clothes that are cold.<span>  </span>(Yes, I know real men don’t carry “fresh” underwear for every day of their trip.<span>  </span>I wore the same clothes all week at Northern Tier too, but if it is really cold, you should swap underwear every day.<span>  </span>Air out the pair you are not wearing to make sure it is dry.<span>  </span>That is what I mean by fresh.<span>  </span>I don’t care if it is clean.)</span></font></p>
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		<title>Sleeping Pads</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A sleeping bag is designed to shield its user from the cold air that surrounds him, not the cold ground below him.  Thus, a proper sleeping pad is not a luxury that provides comfort, it is a necessity to retain warmth.  There are a variety of choices available and just like everything else in backpacking, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Times New Roman"><span>A sleeping bag is designed to shield its user from the cold air that surrounds him, not the cold ground below him.<span>  </span>Thus, a proper sleeping pad is not a luxury that provides comfort, it is a necessity to retain warmth.<span>  </span>There are a variety of choices available and just like everything else in backpacking, you have to balance weight, comfort, durability and cost.<span>  </span>Thermarest is a leading brand of sleeping pads.<span>  </span>REI has a house brand and there may be others.<span>  </span>I will discuss the Thermarest pads because I am more familiar with them, but other similar pads may work just as well or better.<span>  </span>If you are focused on keeping your pack weight down, you can shave a pound or two on your pad.<span>  </span>The Z-Lite egg crate style Thermarest is very light.<span>  </span>It may not be as cushy as the inflatable styles, but it clearly wins in the weight category and is less expensive too.<span>  </span>Also lightweight, but costly, is the Pro-Lite line Thermarests.<span>  </span>One way they shave weight is by trimming the dimensions, including the thickness, which impacts comfort.<span>  </span>I use the rectangular green Trail-Lite Thermarest pad.<span>  </span>It is big enough that I am not likely to roll off of it at night, even as I roll from one side to the other and it is nicely padded.<span>  </span>I am willing to accept a bit of extra weight in order to be comfortable.<span>  </span>Another plus of these is that there are accessories that allow them to be used as a chair or even a lounge seat.<span>  </span>My son has a Trail-Lite pad just like mine.<span>  </span>He also has a Z-Lite for occasions when weight is a compelling factor.<span>  </span>He carried that one to Philmont.<span>  </span>I have not studied the other brands and would welcome comments from anybody who has.</span></font></p>
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		<title>Sleeping Bags</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A comfortable sleeping bag will make the difference between a comfortable night in the outdoors and a miserable experience that can turn a scout against camping.  As with virtually all other types of outdoor equipment, choosing a sleeping bag entails tradeoffs on a variety of factors.  These include cost, weight, durability, warmth, bulk, ease of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><font face="Times New Roman">A comfortable sleeping bag will make the difference between a comfortable night in the outdoors and a miserable experience that can turn a scout against camping.<span>  </span>As with virtually all other types of outdoor equipment, choosing a sleeping bag entails tradeoffs on a variety of factors.<span>  </span>These include cost, weight, durability, warmth, bulk, ease of cleaning, performance when wet and others.<span>  </span>There are very light, warm sleeping bags, but these are costly and not as durable as more mainstream bags.<span>  </span>Inexpensive bags are often bulky, heavy and may not keep you warm.<span>  </span>Down bags are light and warm, but they are costly, difficult to clean and worthless if wet.<span>  </span>The discussion below is designed to help you weigh the various factors, apply them to your own situation, then make a good decision.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p></span><span><font face="Times New Roman">For purposes of this discussion, we are assuming you are choosing a bag for use in Troop 641.<span>  </span>We are located in Houston, so we generally do not experience weather much below freezing.<span>  </span>However, a scout in Troop 641 should expect a couple of nights of below freezing weather during his scouting career and should be prepared for it.<span>  </span>We have frequent rain.<span>  </span>Summers are hot and muggy.<span>  </span>Because of the wide extremes of weather, it may not make sense to look for a “year round” bag.<span>  </span>The better practice is to focus on a bag that will provide proper cold weather performance, then simply use a sheet, fleece blanket or sleeping bag liner in warm weather.</font></span><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p></span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><span>Bag design and size.</span></strong><span><span>  </span>Only a mummy type bag is going to adequately hold in body heat in cold weather.<span>  </span>Rectangular bags with open tops are fine for a slumber party, but when it gets cold, you need to be able to hold in all the heat you can.<span>  </span>Mummy type bags can be hard to get used to, especially for the claustrophobic.<span>  </span>Remember that you do not have to close the top unless the weather requires it.<span>  </span>Bigger bags are more comfortable, but have more volume that your body must keep heated and weigh more.<span>  </span>If you opt for a more expensive bag that is going to be a lifetime investment, make sure your scout will not outgrow it.</span></font><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p></span><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><span>Bag fill material. </span></strong><span><span> </span>Down is a wonderful fill material for a sleeping bag.<span>  </span>There is nothing as light, fluffy, warm and compressible as down.<span>  </span>Unfortunately, down is costly, difficult to properly clean and is absolutely worthless when wet.<span>  </span>This means that if you have a down bag, you (and your tentmates), have to be careful and disciplined not to get it wet and dirty.<span>  </span>One of the most common synthetic materials is polarguard<span>  </span>It is not as light, warm or compressible as down, but it retains its loft when wet and is more washable.<span>  </span>Another less common fill material is Thermolite, which claims to provide equal heat retention as other synthetics while requiring less loft.<span>  </span>This means that Thermolite bags can be fitted in a similar size stuff sack as a down bag.<span>  </span>They are also machine washable.<span>  </span>Having watched scouts for many years and having been one myself, I think the best option for a young scout is a synthetic bag.<span>  </span>Younger boys simple do not have the level of appreciation for their gear to take good care of it.<span>  </span>Even a careful boy is likely to share a tent with a boy who has not yet learned the proper respect for the property of others.<span>  </span>The chances that the boys will fail to properly secure their tent against rain or will let a bottle of water (or worse juice) leak in the tent and get their sleeping bag wet are fairly high.<span>   </span>Indeed, it is through these experiences, and the discomfort that arises from them, that young boys grow into young men and learn to be careful and appreciate their gear.<span>  </span>By the time they reach high school, most scouts are much better at caring for their gear.<span>  </span>For an older boy heading to Philmont, I recommend the investment in a down bag if he needs a new bag and you can afford it.<span>  </span>For a new scout, I would stick to a synthetic.<span>  </span>A moderately priced, lightweight and compact bag is the Coleman Exponent with Thermolite filling.<span>  </span>It is rated at 25 degrees.<span>  </span>My son has used one since he became a scout.<span>  </span>He has never complained of being cold, even though we have camped in freezing conditions on several occasions.<span>  </span>Sadly, this bag has been discontinued and is now hard to find.<span>  </span>I found a similar Thermolite bag at Academy and bought one for Northern Tier.<span>  </span>I still have and use my down bag that I got before my second trip to Philmont as a scout 30+ years ago, but decided I did not want a down bag on a canoe trip to a place where it can rain every day.<span>  </span>The new Thermolite bag is very compressible, lightweight and kept me quite toasty on those cool Canadian summer nights.<span>  </span>I will test it in colder conditions this winter, but from what I have seen so far, I think it is a winner.<span>  </span>For more discussion about fill options, here is a page I have found that details the pros and cons of a number of materials:<span>  </span><a href="http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/down-v-synthetic-guide.html"><font color="#800080">http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/down-v-synthetic-guide.html</font></a>.<span>  </span>Seeing all the products they have listed and all the modifications to the old standard products tells me there are a lot of options, not all of which I have seen, so don’t limit yourself to the fill choices I have listed here.</span></font><span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p></span><span><font face="Times New Roman">I have never seen a bag at REI that was of poor quality.<span>  </span>If you buy a bag there, it will be more costly, but it probably can be trusted.<span>  When you buy the cheaper bags at other outlets, you need to be careful to ensure that they have good zippers and sound construction.  </span>Avoid the tendency to overbuy.<span>  </span>Don’t think you need a zero degree bag just to be on the safe side if you have no intention of camping in that type of weather.<span>  </span>You will pay more than you need to pay, and your son will carry the excess weight and bulk of this bag everywhere he backpacks.<span>  </span>My recommendation for people whose camping expectations do not extend beyond being in the troop, including Philmont in the summer, is to get a bag rated for temperatures no lower than 20 degrees.<span>  </span>If you find yourself taking a trip where the weather will be colder, you can generally get an additional 10 degrees of temperature rating by using a liner in the bag (and you can use the liner alone in the summer).<span>  </span></font></span></p>
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